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Date: 7/13/2009 9:20 am · Subject: Re: increased automation of WebGUI upgrades (warning: long w/ attachments) · Rating: 0
Sounds great - feel free to send me an email or call. Done. 3) some new upgrade process that makes this easier, which I thought was the point of this thread, and therefor worth participating in the discussion Actually the original point of this thread was to discuss the features the cap10morgan has already added to the WRE. But I get your point.
The president's meeting is before the conference and only open to Presidents. And again, you're welcome to attend this year. This topic has already been added to this year's list. As in any software project, making something that works well 90% of the time takes less effort than achieving the last 10%. In my experience, the last 1% always seems to take 100% of the effort :) All that to say, I think WebGUI upgrades are probably doing wonderfully 95% of the time - it's just that I live in the last 5%, so that is the perspective I am articulating. I realize that from a PR perspective, you want prospective customers to know that upgrades work well - which they will for almost everyone. But if a developer thread about changes to the upgrade system are not the place to describe frustrations with the current upgrade system, where is? I'm glad this sub-thread is moving towards being productive instead of just point-counterpoint. Going forward, can we just focus on the ideas of either a) best practices for configuration of large multi-site clusters to better facilitate the use of WebGUI's existing upgrade process, and/or b) possible changes to WebGUI's upgrade process to be more reliable in large multi-site clusters? You're welcome to point out that the upgrades aren't working for you, here or anywhere else. Perhaps I read too much into it, but when I read your post, to me it read like you were saying upgrades in WebGUI are inherently broken. I took that as an attack that needed to be rebuffed. Probably more my state of mind than what you said. |
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patspam
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Date: 7/7/2009 7:25 pm · Subject: Re: increased automation of WebGUI upgrades (warning: long w/ attachments) · Rating: 0
2) We have no official policy about what is or is not in version Hey JT - if you guys do decide to change things in this area it sounds like there would be a flow-on effect to people like me who maintain (and run sites off) custom branches of the WebGUI codebase? Not necessarily for the worse of course, it just might change our workflow a little? Patrick |
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JT
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Date: 6/5/2009 9:36 am · Subject: Re: increased automation of WebGUI upgrades (warning: long w/ attachments) · Rating: 0
Could you reupload these changes in patch format. It would make it easier for me to read what you've changed. |
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cap10morgan
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Date: 6/19/2009 1:06 pm · Subject: Re: increased automation of WebGUI upgrades (warning: long w/ attachments) · Rating: 0
OK, here's a patch format re-upload. This is also slightly newer code than what I originally submitted. This code gets the current WebGUI version from the database rather than reading it out of WebGUI.pm. That's a much more reliable way to do it. It scans every WebGUI database it can find, and if they're all the same version, it starts there. If there is a discrepancy between latest-installed version numbers among the sites' databases, then it bails out w/ an error because some administrator intervention is needed at that point. I've also removed the code that let you grab WebGUI from SVN. Unless there's developer-only use case for re-adding it, it should probably just be left out of any official distribution of this functionality (as per JT's and my discussion earlier in this thread about why it's a bad idea to run a production server from an SVN working copy of WebGUI). Attached Files |
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JT
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Date: 6/19/2009 4:05 pm · Subject: Re: increased automation of WebGUI upgrades (warning: long w/ attachments) · Rating: 0
I'm busy with another project right now, but I have a few weeks in July set aside to work on WRE 1.0, and I've added this to my todo list for WRE 1.0. Thank you so much for your effort here. |
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cap10morgan
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Date: 6/21/2009 5:01 pm · Subject: Re: increased automation of WebGUI upgrades (warning: long w/ attachments) · Rating: 0
Cool. Let me know if I need to do any more refining work on this. I'dlove to see it included in the WRE for 1.0. Thanks, JT. Wes On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > JT wrote: > > I'm busy with another project right now, but I have a few weeks in > July set aside to work on WRE 1.0, and I've added this to my todo list > for WRE 1.0. Thank you so much for your effort here. > > > > http://www.plainblack.com/webgui/dev/discuss/increased-automation-of-webgui-upgrades-warning-long-w/-attachments/11 > > > -- > > Plain Black, makers of WebGUI > http://plainblack.com > > -- "Small acts of humanity amid the chaos of inhumanity provide hope. But small acts are insufficient." - Paul Rusesabagina, Rwandan and former hotel manager whose actions inspired the movie Hotel Rwanda |
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