> But I would like to show you that if you say 'hey, you know what,  
> let's have a development cycle that is predictable' you actually  
> stick to it so that it is predictable.
>
So you don't want me to make promises I can't keep, but you do want me  
to change the world into a sterile black and white place where  
everything is predictable so that I can make a decision and never  
change it?

No I do not want you to make the world into a sterile black and white place.

You agree with me that the goal of a development cycle is predictability, right?

What I'm asking for is to make it even more predictable by announcing at the start of a new directive when that directive will be evaluated.

Ok, I'll file that under things to change when I'm elected god.

Are we going to have an election?

> In that line it might be better to do as Yung suggested and keep the  
> half year cycle at least another half year to see if it proves  
> itself and then possibly change it to a yearly cycle.
>
Glad to finally have your opinion on this. I don't expect to make a  
decision on this until July once I've seen how this release cycle  
completes. I'll probably announce the decision at the WUC.

Regardless of what decision I make for the next year's worth of  
development (1 or 2 releases), there will be a 1 year dev cycle for  
WebGUI 8 as I've already stated.

Ah, ok. That is clear, and very predictable as far as I am concerned.

Koen de Jonge - ProcoliX
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Jamie,

naturally I exaggurated (a lot) on what I would have read between the lines.

If exagguration is not allowed or accounted for in these discussions than I am not the only one who should change it's style in responses.

I never (not even on wrong side of the tracks of the wrong side of the planet named "Wrong") said that JT or Plain Black is making descisions without careful thought, ever. On the contrary, I think that JT and Plain Black are always making descisions in the opposite of a vacuum. I am not a Pope or a Saint or a fortune teller either.

I value PlainBlack and it's staff as very competent people (not popes or saints) that are worthy of a serious response to important issues about the development of WebGUI and all that is going on in relation to that.

It is also my consern that WebGUI (and PlainBlack for that matter) are thriving, both financially as emotionally.

I think that JT and PlainBlack are trying to work very hard at doing the best they can, and I admire that.

My argument is that if JT can say exactly how far he can go in promising things that would give more certainty. But I do not seem to master the English language enough to get that across. Or maybe JT just disagrees with me on that point, however I think that also in that my English should get better to get that clear.

I feel very intimidated by the "you are completely out of line" and "don't you dare impy". I am truly sorry if I have offended someone (anyone) at Plain Black, I did not want that to happen.

Koen

Ok, So I've been reading this thing for quite awhile and I think this is the first time I've posted. 

Koen - Your comments are completely out of line for this discussion.  JT's done the best he can at giving you a release strategy, I'm not sure what more you can ask from him.  Nothing in this world is a for sure, and we would be stupid to say that it is.  Every product has a dev cycle and every company tries to stick to it, but new things come along and new arguments are brought up all the time as to why the schedule should change.  They would be idiots and out of business, if they didn't make changes.  
While your point number 3 is absolutely correct, your inferrence that JT or Plain Black is making changes without careful thought is dead wrong and it invalidates for me anything you've said in this thread to this point.  You may not agree with all the changes we make.  That's fine.  Present your arguments as to why you think it should be different.  But don't you dare imply that our decisions aren't made with the good of WebGUI, Plain Black and the users, in mind. 
Jamie

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