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martien
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Date: 5/18/2010 12:53 pm · Subject: WAI Validation · Rating: -1
Last week someone asked me about WAI-conformability of WebGUI-Sites. To understand: please have a look at http://www.totalvalidator.com and validate this page. You'll see about 200 errors. Some of them should be corrected in the perl code (e.g. labels), so for this part WebGUI isn't WAI-conform. After that, try http://www.accesskeys.org/tools/color-contrast.html (which is much better ). Another try for validation was changing dpi of the browser (in firefox: select about:config, look for "dpi" and change it e.g. to 132) To get this ok, it is advised to consequently use "em" instead of pixels. Is this an issue for the designers / for WebGUI?
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perlDreamer
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Date: 5/18/2010 11:12 pm · Subject: Re: WAI Validation · Rating: -1
I think this is an important issue, but it's important not to confuse things that are in the core, versus the issues with any given site design, like webgui.org. --- (Edited on 5/18/2010 9:12 pm [GMT-0700] by perlDreamer) --- |
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arjan
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Date: 5/19/2010 3:05 am · Subject: Re: WAI Validation · Rating: -1
True, but it's not always easy to make a WAI compliant site. Martien, it's one of the aims of the template working group, to make it easy to create a WAI compliant site with WebGUI. Check out http://templates.unitedknowledge.nl/ if you want to help out. We also have a list there of all the bugs that are related to making a standards compliant website. Please inform us if you post bugs that are WAI related. Kind regards, Arjan Widlak United Knowledge --- (Edited on 19-May-2010 10:05 [GMT+0200] by arjan) --- |
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martien
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Date: 5/19/2010 4:03 am · Subject: Re: WAI Validation · Rating: -1
Arjan,
excellent! Some more "secret sites" somewhere available?
something I did in my posting before. --- (Edited on 19.05.2010 11:03 [GMT+0200] by martien) --- |
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martien
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Date: 5/19/2010 3:45 am · Subject: Re: WAI Validation · Rating: -1
...but it's important not to confuse things that are in the core, versus the issues with any given site design, like webgui.org.</p> that's right! I just took your page as a demonstration example, as I did with some of my pages (with more than 1000 errors ;( With so many hints, it's quite helpful to find out, which errors were caused by the design and which were by the core. It was quite positive to find out, that some minor changes can reduce the errors enormously. My experiences: In the core:
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arjan
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Date: 5/19/2010 5:50 am · Subject: Re: WAI Validation · Rating: -1
Hi Martien,I believe these are all issues that have been discussed within the template working group. You can make forms that will validate, both XHTML strict as well as WAI compliant. But not in the most ideal way. For that the forms system would have to work differently. The Hn nesting is more a question of one or two good general setup on which to base the other themes. But this is not hard to do yourself. The assetId, just put id in front of it. I believe the default templates that were made by the template working group have that. Kind regards, Arjan. webguide@innovate.de wrote: > martien wrote: > > /...but it's important not to confuse things that are in the core, > versus the issues with any given site design, like webgui.org. > / > > > that's right! > > I just took your page as a demonstration example, as I did with some > of my pages (with more than 1000 errors ;( > With so many hints, it's quite helpful to find out, which errors were > caused by the design and which were by the core. > > It was quite positive to find out, that some minor changes can reduce > the errors enormously. > > My experiences: > > In the core: > > * Here found issues with the Form-widgets (e.g. SelectList, Text, > Combo ) especially about the label-tags > > > In the templates: > > * If you don't show a page-title but start with an object-title, > you'll get: "Nest headings properly (H1 > H2 > H3)" > This probably could be changed by changing CSS for page-titles > instead of not delivering them. > > > In general: > > * Using a Asset-Id as a tag-id is comfortable but can cause an > error, since it can begin with 0-9 and this is not allowed. > Although not really serious, this only could be changed by > preventing such asset-ids > > > > --- (Edited on 19.05.2010 10:45 [GMT+0200] by martien) --- > > > > http://www.webgui.org/forums/design/wai-validation/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- Setting Standards, a a Delft University of Technology and United Knowledge simulation exercise on strategy and cooperation in standardization, http://www.setting-standards.com United Knowledge, internet voor de publieke sector Keizersgracht 74 1015 CT Amsterdam T +31 (0)20 52 18 300 F +31 (0)20 52 18 301 bureau@unitedknowledge.nl http://www.unitedknowledge.nl M +31 (0)6 2427 1444 E arjan@unitedknowledge.nl Bezoek onze site op: http://www.unitedknowledge.nl Of bekijk een van onze recente projecten: http://www.clubvanmaarssen.org/ http://www.setting-standards.com/ https://www.handvestburgerschap.nl/ http://www.webgui-help.nl --- (Edited on 5/19/2010 5:50 am [GMT-0500] by arjan) --- |
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