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Any Update on WebGUI 8?

User pvanthony
Date 3/27/2012 8:23 pm
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pvanthony

Hi,

Just asking if there is any update on WebGUI 8. I am excited about it.

P.V.Anthony

--- (Edited on 28-March-2012 9:23 am [GMT+0800] by pvanthony) ---



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jordo

I too wonder what the status is of WebGUI 8.

It was great when updates of the status where made through Twitter. Since February, it's been very quiet

--- (Edited on 6/7/2012 12:15 pm [GMT-0400] by jordo) ---



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knowmad

Yes, there are many of us who would like to get a status report. This week is YAPC::NA which is being held in Madison and organized by JT and his team. So, I doubt we'll hear any news until after the conference. Perhaps they've been saving some big announcements until this week...

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--- (Edited on 6/11/2012 4:15 am [GMT-0400] by knowmad) ---



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pvanthony

Was there any announcement about WebGUI 8 during YAPC 2012?

Really excited.

Requesting the blog to be updated.

P.V.Anthony

--- (Edited on 18-June-2012 11:48 am [GMT+0800] by pvanthony) ---



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scottwalters

This is complicated.  PlainBlack didn't do a WUC this year but, instead, PlainBlack personal in Madison, working with the rest of the Madison PerlMongers, helped put on YAPC instead.  There was a bit of a push to get WUC-goers to instead come to YAPC, so I hoped that there would be a certain amount of WebGUI content at YAPC.  Indeed, I put in for a wG8 talk whose description was excessively hyperbolic, as that was the manic state of mind I was in when I wrote the submission.

A WebGUI8 release announcement was a top request bit of content on IRC -- not even technical content, just an official announcement.  As it happened, the senior staff of PlainBlack didn't stand up and make an official wG8 release announcement.

I didn't see many people I met from the WUCs at YAPC, and the greater Perl community has never been the target audiance or the main contributor base to WebGUI, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

I'm hoping to have some more spare time to do some strategic improvements in wG8.  perlDreamer has been making a certain amount of time for improvements as well, and has been fielding bug reports.  I have in the past stopped to address bugs that are holding people up when they're brought to my attention in #webgui on FreeNode IRC, and I'm going to continue supporting wG8 there with my free moments (the forums are probably a better place to go for in-depth concerns as attention on IRC is by nature scattered, but maybe not; if not, someone let me know and I'll help out with the forums more).

There is no pending "feature release" of WebGUI7.  It's entirely stable.  Bug fixes are going in.  Any time that we get to add features, we're adding them to wG8.  The master branch of http://github.com/plainblack/webgui is for WebGUI 8.0.1, so WebGUI 8.0.0 is "out", final, and done, for better or worse.

There's no question that the rate of development on wG8 has slowed.  Previously, we had a very smart developer working on it full time since well before I started with the company and then for a year after that, and perlDreamer had a crunch going to get the wre out for it.  Really, it was exceptional how many resources we were able to allocate to it for a long time.  Huge amount of important work was done on internals.  Perhaps only for a brief moment in time, the internals are modern with respect to Perl OO, exception handling, HTTP server technology, and a few other things.

I'm not in a position to make an official announcement on behalf of the company.  I can only repeat what I know and make suggestions.  Personally, I'd like to talk to people about wG8 on IRC.  I want to talk to people about improvements I'm thinking of.  I'd like to see the people who visit #webgui hanging out talking to each other more.  If I do manage to make some of the improvements I'm thinking of, I'll blog about it and post them on http://blog.webgui.org.  In the end, the only announcement that matters is blog posts from the wilds from new people who have discovered wG, installed it without problems, and find that it's doing exactly what they want it to.

--- (Edited on 6/21/2012 11:20 am [GMT-0500] by scottwalters) ---



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jigou

Time for an end-of-year, peering into 2013 bump....

I see activity in the commit history at https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commits/ so I know it's getting a little bit of attention....but I see nothing around this site to help people use / install wG8 OR know what the "real" current status is.

In my opinion, the short list at http://www.webgui.org/8  doesn't really help "regular" folks understand where this thing is in its development cycle, and the install documentation buried in the github /docs folder is painful to say the least.

Jarrod

--- (Edited on 12/26/2012 12:07 pm [GMT-0600] by jigou) ---



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xootom

Another bump into 2013. We're needing to do some big overhauls on our sites to take them into the future, what with the number of people using mobile devices we really want to get new responsive designs going supported by a whole raft of new templates, much simpler, cleaner and modern.

I'm wondering whether we just leave our back-end on 7.10 and forget about 8, but I really just want to have a play with it to see what it's like and if it's worth building on (and the heartache of upgrading from 7)... but I'm finding it incredibly difficult to make it work at all.

I've tried compiling wre on different platforms, and it seems so close yet so far; there are multiple conflicting installation instructions (wiki, wre docs, webgui docs..) it doesn't really seem to be supported on 64 bit officially, even the latest compiled 32 bit wre 0.9.6 on sourceforge is a bad link (like much of webgui.org)

It's starting to feel like a ghost town (I came from using Metadot which went the same way) but we have a lot invested in this system and even now I can't find anything else that comes close to the depth and breadth of functionality.

Does anyone have a virtualbox/vmware WG8 image I could play with? Or a demo site? Or definitive guide on how to install (which platform it's been built on so it's more likely to work). I've spent the last couple of days on this so I'm determined to see it through :o)

--- (Edited on 02-02-2013 13:46:20 [GMT+0000] by xootom) ---



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pvanthony

Did a search at githup and found this. Hope this helps.

https://github.com/plainblack/webgui

P.V.Anthony

--- (Edited on 5-February-2013 3:46 pm [GMT+0800] by pvanthony) ---



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wlindley

Scott Walters' Kickstarter project ("Create Perl Competition to the PHP Content Management Systems") reached its funding in mid-July 2014.  The code name for the next release will be Allium Cepa ("true onion")

I'm writing a series about its ongoing progress.

The github repository is here:

https://github.com/AlliumCepa/webgui

--- (Edited on 7/22/2014 6:08 am [GMT-0500] by wlindley) ---



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